Giacomo Morini on PhilosophyUniversity studentSome time ago
While Socrates is overrated, Democritus is relatively unknown. That's sad: in a democritean-based philosophy I have more than a reason to believe that in history there wouldn't have been all that bigotry. I make this affirmation due to Plato thought. (Note: he was a Socrates' student) First of all, it's his fault if we haven't full access to democritean works: he simply said that they would have to be burned. Then, in "Republic" he expresses an idealistic, almost religious, philosophy that, as others like that, tends to repress bodies and minds. He wanted to censor poets like Homer and Hesiod, for example, and also to repress passions, sexuality too. But there are also another reason: there's no "idea", no "absolute" and nothing holy. (It isn't demonstrable) But anything who's given an "absolute", as the "good" itself, still becomes dogmatic. That's because we have no power to what is trascendental. So, who say that there's something that goes over matter, admits a religious power to individuals. Here it comes Democritus: there's nothing trascendental but the atoms themselves, then you're free. No absolute can control you. Then you have te power to know everything, to do everything and to control what you're able to control.

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Gabriele TrombiniPhilosophy student
I don't agree with your hard division between dogmatism and empirism regarding these two philosophers: Democritus also had a dogmatic viewpoint of reality (he demonstrated atoms existence mostly through logical deductions stemming from real world, just like Plato deduced ideas from the existence of real life objects), and, as there was a strict teleological meaning of nature in ancient Greek society, Democritus's moral system wouldn't had been much different from Plato's one; do what your structure makes you do best, as much as you can. In conclusion, a Demicritean framework of ancient Greek philosophy (assuming uniformity of perception and interpretation of reality, not to be taken for granted by today's standards) 'd just had resulted in a collapse of dogmatism over naturalism, we'd had been "controlled" by atoms just like Plato's ideas "control" his human beings.
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Giacomo MoriniUniversity student
I partially agree. Obviously I know that there's actually no "adogmatic" philosophy, but as Nietzsche said that "there's difference to be controlled by Bible, Plato or Homer", I would say that there's a difference to be controlled by atoms, gods, or ideas. I would give three motivations to my argument: 1) Idealism makes individuals to proceed from a point A to a given point B. (that actually doesn't exist) Atomim gives a point A, but his point B, I mean happiness, is a democritean affirmation, not an atomist one, then it is human, not metaphysical. Then point B can change. 2) I would dare to say that mechanical philosophy is Darwinian while Idealism is creationist. What I mean is that a rationalist atomist philosophy will evolve, making only the truth to survive, while in Idealism most is given. Then dogmas are much easier to merge. 3) Maybe Democritus was a dispotic, ultra-dogmatic philosopher, but we won't know it certainly, and that's Plato fault.
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Povilas GodliauskasTech Recruiter & Career Coach / Founder @ coach.lt
I define dogma is an unquestioned thought. If one is not open to new evidence or the possibility of being wrong, they could be considered dogmatic.
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